cgonzo666 wrote:

I know this post is like 10 years old, but is this still accurate?

I know this post is like 10 years old, but is this still accurate?

Yes.

cgonzo666 wrote:

Does this mean the player does not have to be the first to raise for the PFR to be affected?

Yes.

cgonzo666 wrote:

Does this mean the player does not have to be the first to raise for the PFR to be affected?

Then what would be the best statistic for someone who raises first pre-flop? I"m guessing but something similar to RFI PF?

The built-in statistic called 'Raise First In' is a preflop statistic although that will not include hands where there were limpers. If you want a statistic for all preflop 2bets regardless of limpers then there is a '2Bet Preflop' custom statistic available in the Download Warehouse.

Statistics: Posted by Flag_Hippo — Sun Nov 26, 2023 1:19 pm

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Statistics: Posted by Flag_Hippo — Sun Nov 26, 2023 7:00 am

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I'm wondering especially about this part "PFR includes any preflop raise (first raise/2bet, 3bet, 4bet, etc.)"

Does this mean the player does not have to be the first to raise for the PFR to be affected?

Then what would be the best statistic for someone who raises first pre-flop? I"m guessing but something similar to RFI PF?

I am assuming RFI is for all betting rounds, not just PF

Statistics: Posted by cgonzo666 — Sun Nov 26, 2023 6:50 am

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BTN vs 2opp

BTN vs BB

BTN vs SB

SB vs BB

SB vs BTN

BB vs BTN

BB vs SB

I managed to do HU SBvsBB and BBvsSB, they were simpler:

example:

BBvSB hipEV/game (HUBB) = (amt_expected_won_hubb / cnt_tourneys)

amt_expected_won_hubb

sum(if[tourney_hand_summary.cnt_players = 2 and tourney_hand_player_statistics.position = 8, tourney_hand_player_statistics.amt_expected_won, 0])

for the case of 3handed I know I should put:

tourney_hand_summary.cnt_players = 3

tourney_hand_player_statistics.position = (player position)

but I don't know how to put the opponent's position.

How do I do this?

someone help me please!

Statistics: Posted by DANNI BASTOS — Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:58 pm

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Statistics: Posted by DANNI BASTOS — Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:49 pm

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Qwaserd wrote:

I created a player column stat

val_p_total_3bet

sum(if[cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_3bet, cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_raise_made_2 / cash_limit.amt_bb, 0])

and a custom player stat

Avg 3Bet Size

if( cnt_p_3bet > 0, (val_p_total_3bet / cnt_p_3bet), 0 )

It gives an output but not the one I expected. Any idea what I am doing wrong?

I created a player column stat

val_p_total_3bet

sum(if[cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_3bet, cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_raise_made_2 / cash_limit.amt_bb, 0])

and a custom player stat

Avg 3Bet Size

if( cnt_p_3bet > 0, (val_p_total_3bet / cnt_p_3bet), 0 )

It gives an output but not the one I expected. Any idea what I am doing wrong?

You need to use cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_raise_made which is the size of the first preflop raise made by the player. cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_raise_made_2 is the size of the second raise made by the player which at minimum will be a 4bet.

Qwaserd wrote:

I did similar for average rfi size

val_p_total_rfi

sum(if[cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_first_raise, cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_raise_made / cash_limit.amt_bb, 0])

Avg RFI Size

val_p_total_rfi / cnt_p_raise_first_in

This works as expected.

This isn't going to give you correct numbers. Based on the definition in PokerTracker 4 a 'Raise First In' means that the player opened the pot for a raise (i.e. no limpers) but you are summing the size of all 2bets regardless of whether it was first in or not. See the expression used for the cnt_p_raise_first_in column which also uses cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_open_opp.

Statistics: Posted by Flag_Hippo — Sat Nov 25, 2023 2:09 pm

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sum(if[cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_3bet, cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_raise_made_2 / cash_limit.amt_bb, 0])

and a custom player stat

Avg 3Bet Size

if( cnt_p_3bet > 0, (val_p_total_3bet / cnt_p_3bet), 0 )

It gives an output but not the one I expected. Any idea what I am doing wrong?

I did similar for average rfi size

val_p_total_rfi

sum(if[cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_first_raise, cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_raise_made / cash_limit.amt_bb, 0])

Avg RFI Size

val_p_total_rfi / cnt_p_raise_first_in

This works as expected.

Statistics: Posted by Qwaserd — Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:40 am

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Statistics: Posted by Flag_Hippo — Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:39 am

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