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Re: Stats meanings

Postby Kanario » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:57 am

WhiteRider wrote:Yes, a 2Bet is the first raise (after a bet). There is no restriction on preflop action in this stat.


Ty, WhiteRider.

Sorry, but it´s a bit confusing for me:


1/ Preflop: MP openraises 2,5bbs (no limpers) and BTN reraises --> for PT4:

1.a) what´s MP doing, a "Raise First In"?

1.b) what´s BTN doing, a 3bet preflop or a 2bet preflop?



2/ Preflop: villain limps in CO and hero raises from BTN --> for PT4:

what´s hero doing, "Raise with previous limpers" or/and a "2bet preflop"?



3/ Preflop: MP openraises and BTN calls --> for PT4:

what´s BTN doing, "Cold Call 2bet PF" or "Call PF 2bet" or "Call Any PF Raise"?



4/ Preflop: MP limps, BTN raises and MP calls --> for PT4:

what´s MP doing, "Cold Call 2bet PF" or "Call PF 2bet" or "Call Any PF Raise"?



5/ Postflop: villain limps, everybody folds and hero in BB checks; in the flop hero bets and villain reraises --> for PT4: is villain doing a "2bet Flop"?
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Re: Stats meanings

Postby kraada » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:25 pm

I think you were misunderstanding a bit - a raise can be both a raise first in and a 2bet. In fact, all raises first in are always 2bets. 2bets are only not raises first in if there are limpers in front of the raise.

Answers to your specific examples are in bold:

Kanario wrote:Ty, WhiteRider.

Sorry, but it´s a bit confusing for me:


1/ Preflop: MP openraises 2,5bbs (no limpers) and BTN reraises --> for PT4:

1.a) what´s MP doing, a "Raise First In"?
Yes, he raises first in, he also 2bets.
1.b) what´s BTN doing, a 3bet preflop or a 2bet preflop?
He's 3betting. MP made the 2bet (which was also a raise first in).


2/ Preflop: villain limps in CO and hero raises from BTN --> for PT4:

what´s hero doing, "Raise with previous limpers" or/and a "2bet preflop"?

Hero is raising with previous limpers, and 2betting both.

3/ Preflop: MP openraises and BTN calls --> for PT4:

what´s BTN doing, "Cold Call 2bet PF" or "Call PF 2bet" or "Call Any PF Raise"?

Button is doing all of these things.

4/ Preflop: MP limps, BTN raises and MP calls --> for PT4:

what´s MP doing, "Cold Call 2bet PF" or "Call PF 2bet" or "Call Any PF Raise"?

MP is not cold calling because of the previous limp (he put money in and so was not cold). MP is calling a PF 2bet and calling any preflop raise as the buttons raise was the 2bet and MP called it.

5/ Postflop: villain limps, everybody folds and hero in BB checks; in the flop hero bets and villain reraises --> for PT4: is villain doing a "2bet Flop"?

Yes, the first raise on any postflop street is a 2bet for that street

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Re: Stats meanings

Postby Kanario » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:35 pm

This is what I needed to know, and everything is clear for me now.

Ty, kraada!
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Re: Stats meanings

Postby Kanario » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:09 pm

Hi!

What´s the difference between "vs Open" and "vs 2Bet"? "Open" means without limpers and "2Bet" means with limpers?
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Re: Stats meanings

Postby WhiteRider » Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:54 am

You're partly correct. "vs Open" does mean that the 2bet was made as an open-raise (with no previous limpers), but "vs 2Bet" is against any 2bet regardless of whether there were limpers or not.
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Re: Stats meanings

Postby jojoiso » Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:27 am

then why i have the different counts-times for the "Call vs CO open and Call vs BTN open (i setup BB and SB in options)" vs "Call LP Steal" ?
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Re: Stats meanings

Postby jojoiso » Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:39 am

Call vs EP(MP) open = (cnt_p_call_vs_EP_open / cnt_p_call_vs_EP_open_opp) * 100

Call vs CO(BTN) open = (cnt_p_call_vs_co_open / cnt_p_3bet_opp_vs_co_open) * 100

Call LP Steal = (cnt_steal_def_action_call_vs_lp / cnt_steal_def_opp_vs_lp) * 100

plz explain all meanings of that, how it counts
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Re: Stats meanings

Postby kraada » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:30 am

Call vs CO Open is how often you call when given the chance when the first money in the pot and the first raise both came from the CO. The Call vs BTN Open is the same, just for BTN rather than CO. Call vs LP Steal is how often you call from the blinds given the chance when the first money in the pot (and the first raise) came from either the CO or the BTN and nobody else put money in the pot before you. As you can see, these are close but not quite identical.
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