Alternative to TourneyLuck?!

[WhiteRider]

There will be some differences like this in the EV values for preflop all-ins. PT3 needs to calculate the EV very fast, and therefore can only run a limited number of possibilities based on the known cards. Postflop this will be pretty accurate as the number of possible outcomes is manageable, but preflop there are a lot more possibilities. If you refresh the report you will see a different value, within a range of the right value.
When the mechanism is changed to calculate EV at import time and store it in the database it will be made more accurate.

[acepoint]

Yep, I've noticed this. But it doesn't explain the huge difference within the sums.

Ciao

Achim

[WhiteRider]

106 to 114 is a bit of a bigger difference than I'd expect, but not unbelievable. If you refresh it what sort of range of values do you get?
Please attach the original hand history file to a Support ticket and include a link to this thread and we'll check it out.

[acepoint]

Oops, this was a misunderstanding. I didn't mean the differences between two refreshes but the differences in the sums compared to an export into an Excelsheet (see my other post).

Ciao

Achim

[feint06]

And, of course accordingly +1,824.66 "luck" in the PT sum but only +423.95 in an Excelsheet.

For this week (running suicidally bad), my pt3 report says:

Expected: T640,970
Won: T462,274
BB expected: 156.79
BB Won: 3207


The spreadsheet says:

Expected: T640,970
Won: T462,274
BB expected: 4780.99
BB Won: 3207

This is capturing 4088 allin hands


Using the older version of pt3 on my laptop + SNG luck, I get:
Expected: 212,000
Actual: -16,000
Difference: -228,357
BB Expected: 1600
BB Actual: 900
Difference: -700

SNGluck says 1833 all-in hands...



I'm not sure why SNGluck only seems to have 1/2 as many hands. But I can confirm that the Expected BB won column sum on the PT3 report is wrong.



Also interestingly, SNG luck captures a hand where I bet enough on the flop to put someone all-in and they called. This PT3 report does not.

[WhiteRider]

Please attach hands which show the wrong EV in PT3 to a support ticket and we'll investigate.

[acepoint]

It's not _one_ hand. It's a faulty sum up at the end of the reports.

Ciao

Achim

[WhiteRider]

Where are you looking at the totals? The EV stats are only available in reports showing individual hands and they don't have totals. Ah - are you using a custom report?
Please report your problem with screenshots to illustrate, and tell us exactly what values seem to be wrong. If you're using a custom report then please export and attach that too.

[feint06]

Where are you looking at the totals? The EV stats are only available in reports showing individual hands and they don't have totals. Ah - are you using a custom report?
Please report your problem with screenshots to illustrate, and tell us exactly what values seem to be wrong. If you're using a custom report then please export and attach that too.

make a report with BB expected. the sum will be wrong.

[WhiteRider]

OK, I see - thanks.
It looks like an issue with the "summary type" of the Variable and Column used in that stat.
I will report it to the development team to be fixed.