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Statistic regarding bluffs

Postby Eav1981 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:31 pm

Is there a way to see how often I bluff on the river and to see how often it works/fails
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Re: Statistic regarding bluffs

Postby kraada » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:01 am

If you can define bluff, and define failure more explicitly, then yes, and I'd be happy to help you build the stat.
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Re: Statistic regarding bluffs

Postby Eav1981 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:21 pm

Bluff = Ace high or worse,

Fail/succeed = i make a bet,raise or check raise on river with ace high or worse and i get called = (bluff fails) or opponent folded =(i succeed)

would love to have the stat to show the % of the time the bluff was successfull.

[ (Times bluff was succeesfull/total times bluffed)*100]
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Re: Statistic regarding bluffs

Postby kraada » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:23 am

Create two new columns in the Holdem Hand Player Statistics section:
cnt_r_bluff_att: sum(if[holdem_hand_player_combinations.flg_r_highcard AND lookup_actions_r.action SIMILAR TO '(B%|%R%)', 1, 0])
cnt_r_bluff_suc: sum(if[holdem_hand_player_combinations.flg_r_highcard AND holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_won and NOT(holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_showdown), 1, 0])

The former is bluff attempts - you have a high card hand on the river (ie- A high or less), and your actions are either to bet or to raise at some point.
The latter is bluff successes - you have a high card hand on the river, you won the hand, and you did not reach showdown - therefore you must have bet or raised and won the hand.

Then create a statistic putting cnt_r_bluff_suc / cnt_r_bluff_att and multiply by 100 and you're good to go.
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Re: Statistic regarding bluffs

Postby Eav1981 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:38 pm

thank you very much for taking the time to create the statistic for me

the second part of your equation returns an invalid sql error, i copy-pase the following in the the expression column

sum(if[holdem_hand_player_combinations.flg_r_highcard AND holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_won and NOT(holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_showdown), 1, 0])

the error seems to be in the line "holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_won" because when i remove this line the expression become valid. I think its possible that the the expression is supposed to be "holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_won_hand"
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Re: Statistic regarding bluffs

Postby WhiteRider » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:27 am

Yes, you're right - the field is flg_won_hand.
You can always check things like that by clicking the 'insert' link and browsing the available database fields that way (which I guess is how you found that field?).
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Re: Statistic regarding bluffs

Postby Eav1981 » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:30 pm

i have ran into another problem, the numbers i am getting are not making much sense, i think the problem is in the following expression

cnt_r_bluff_suc: sum(if[holdem_hand_player_combinations.flg_r_highcard AND holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_won_hand and NOT(holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_showdown), 1, 0])

i believe this does not take into consideration that the "play" is made on the river, it "counts" if i have a high card, won the pot, and did not see a showdown, which means im getting a "flag" if i won the pot preflop, on the flop, on the turn and on the river (with a high card).

im not 100% sure how to re-write the formulate to include a check to make sure the play only counts if its made on the river. any help would be greatly apreciated.

thank you
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Re: Statistic regarding bluffs

Postby kraada » Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:44 am

Oh, good point.

Use this instead:

cnt_r_bluff_suc: sum(if[holdem_hand_player_combinations.flg_r_highcard AND holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_won_hand and NOT(holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_showdown) AND holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_r_saw, 1, 0])

Adding flg_r_saw means you must have seen the river. But having seen the river and having not gotten to showdown your play must have been made on the river.
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Re: Statistic regarding bluffs

Postby Eav1981 » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:33 pm

Thank you very very much, the stat works perfectly.
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Re: Statistic regarding bluffs

Postby kraada » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:41 pm

Glad to hear it :)
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