Holdem Hand Range Visualizer "check flop" stats

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Holdem Hand Range Visualizer "check flop" stats

Postby lifeisagame69 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:54 am

Hi,

In the Holdem Hand Range Visualizer, i would like to setup the stats "check flop"

How can i do that?


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Re: Holdem Hand Range Visualizer "check flop" stats

Postby kraada » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:10 am

Click the small wrench at the top right of the stat list and add it to the list.

Also, for future reference, please note this is the PT3 forum section, not the PT4 one.
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Re: Holdem Hand Range Visualizer "check flop" stats

Postby lifeisagame69 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:08 am

Hi,
Oh right i didn't notice i write it on the PT3 forum, you can move it to the PT4 one if you want to.

I did research that stats there, but i don't find it.

in the flop section, have only check/raise, no check here.

I'm looking for checking flop stats, mean when i'm taking free card .


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Re: Holdem Hand Range Visualizer "check flop" stats

Postby kraada » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:32 am

Ah, I see. That stat doesn't exist by default but it is easy to build. Create a new stat with the value expression: (cnt_f_check / cnt_f_open_opp) * 100 and that will show you the percentage that a player checks given that he had a chance to.
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Re: Holdem Hand Range Visualizer "check flop" stats

Postby lifeisagame69 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:25 pm

when i try to create it they told me that is an invalid value expression.

What am i doing wrong?
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Re: Holdem Hand Range Visualizer "check flop" stats

Postby kraada » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:28 pm

My apologies, use this instead:
(cnt_f_check / (cnt_f_bet + cnt_f_check)) * 100

and it will validate.
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Re: Holdem Hand Range Visualizer "check flop" stats

Postby lifeisagame69 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:54 pm

Hi

Something wierd with the stats you give me.

i Got 97% of cb flop and 38.5% on free card flop.
Something must be wrong ?

Also, i notice this stats you give me include when vilain 3bet me (in BB it's HU situation) and check flop and i check flop also.

I don't want that situation, i don t want any 3bet pot or 4bet pot situation (it's Limit Holdem, no 5bet pot).
I want only the situation when i open raise sb, BB call.
BB check and i check also.



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Re: Holdem Hand Range Visualizer "check flop" stats

Postby WhiteRider » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:07 am

Both CBet and Kraada's "free card" expression work on opportunities - and they are different situations so the opportunities are different. The stats will therefore not add up to 100%.
You could have an opportunity to check the flop without it being a CBet opportunity.

lifeisagame69 wrote:I don't want that situation, i don t want any 3bet pot or 4bet pot situation (it's Limit Holdem, no 5bet pot).
I want only the situation when i open raise sb, BB call.
BB check and i check also.

That is much more specific than what you originally asked for. So you basically want the number of times you didn't CBet when you had the opportunity?
To do that without making any new columns you can kind of reverse the expression from the stat "CBet Flop in non-3Bet+ Pot".

That expression is:

((cnt_f_cbet - cnt_f_cbet_3bet_pot) / (cnt_f_cbet_opp - cnt_f_cbet_opp_3bet_pot)) * 100

To get the reverse of that but still keep it in the right format of (times/opportunities) * 100, do this:

(((cnt_f_cbet_opp - cnt_f_cbet_opp_3bet_pot) - (cnt_f_cbet - cnt_f_cbet_3bet_pot)) / (cnt_f_cbet_opp - cnt_f_cbet_opp_3bet_pot)) * 100

That's basically:

((opportunities - actions) / opportunities) * 100
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Re: Holdem Hand Range Visualizer "check flop" stats

Postby lifeisagame69 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:14 pm

Thanks, it works.

I would like to go deeper in the same situation, free card flop when get a cb opportunity.
I would like for example, to get the % of Top paire, middle paire, bottom paire, FLushdraw, Straightdraw, Gutshot, High card etc per Hands like QTo, T9o etc
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Re: Holdem Hand Range Visualizer "check flop" stats

Postby WhiteRider » Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:39 am

Probably the easiest way to do that is to use the filters - click More Filters and then the Hand Values section.
You could make custom stats like that but they can get pretty complex and you'll need separate stats for each situation.
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