GG Network HH All-in adj bb/100 broken?

[peteyy]

Hi!

Stacks go in on the river on this example. How come its +EV?

GG Poker - 150/300 Ante 45 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 32.7 BB
UTG: 23.05 BB
UTG+1: 68.53 BB
MP: 0.16 BB
MP+1: 49.48 BB
CO: 65.51 BB
BTN: 27.86 BB
Hero (SB): 73.37 BB

8 players post ante of 0.15 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.7 BB) Hero has 6 6

fold, UTG+1 raises to 2 BB, MP calls 0.01 BB and is all-in, MP+1 calls 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (11.21 BB, 6 players) 9 Q 6
Hero bets 9 BB, BB calls 9 BB, fold, MP+1 calls 9 BB, fold

Turn: (38.21 BB, 4 players) A
Hero bets 46.62 BB, fold, MP+1 calls 38.33 BB and is all-in

River: (114.86 BB, 3 players) K

Hero shows 6 6 (Three of a Kind, Sixes)

MP shows Q 8 (One Pair, Queens)

MP+1 shows J K (Flush, Ace High)

MP+1 wins 114.86 BB

[Flag_Hippo]

While the MP only had 0.16BB in this particular case the actions in the hand resulted in adjusted equity not being calculated so the adjusted result just matches the actual result. In any hand where there was further action on another street after an all-in then PokerTracker 4 does not calculate adjusted equity as it introduces a bias in the results.

[peteyy]

While the MP only had 0.16BB in this particular case the actions in the hand resulted in adjusted equity not being calculated so the adjusted result just matches the actual result. In any hand where there was further action on another street after an all-in then PokerTracker 4 does not calculate adjusted equity as it introduces a bias in the results.

I see. Thanks for the answer. Is there good way to filter this kinda pots?

[Flag_Hippo]

This expression filter should work in 'My Reports' although you will also see hands where you were drawing dead:

Code: Select all

cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_showdown and lookup_actions_r.action = '' and cash_hand_player_statistics.val_equity = 0

You can use this expression filter by clicking on the 'Filters' link and selecting 'Add New Expression Filters'. You will need to replace 'cash' with 'tourney' if you are in a tournament report.

[viggie]

Sorry I keep seeing this reply but it doesnt make any sense to me. Both players were all in on the turn - there is no more possible action.

How did villain go all in but still have .18bb in front of him? That also makes no sense to me.

Here is an example hand that happened to me. I lost 95$ all in adj is 95$. We were both all in on the turn at like 67% to 33%.
Basically every hand is like this, I never have any all in adj calculation.
This cant be right.

PokerStars Hand #4042942764: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1) - 2020/12/13 17:47:34
Table '#23204176' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: PLR_6768363VA ($46.96 in chips)
Seat 2: PLR_8364275KN ($313.85 in chips)
Seat 3: PLR_2773381LJ ($33.67 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($95 in chips)
Seat 5: PLR_3765704JY ($30.33 in chips)
Seat 6: PLR_6972001PM ($212.33 in chips)
PLR_8364275KN: posts small blind $0.50
PLR_2773381LJ: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Jd Ah Qh 7d]
Hero: raises $3.50 to $3.50
PLR_3765704JY: folds
PLR_6972001PM: calls $3.50
PLR_6768363VA: folds
PLR_8364275KN: calls $3
PLR_2773381LJ: calls $2.50
*** FLOP *** [As 7c Qc]
PLR_8364275KN: bets $14
PLR_2773381LJ: folds
Hero: calls $14
PLR_6972001PM: folds
*** TURN *** [As 7c Qc] [2h]
PLR_8364275KN: bets $42
Hero: raises $35.50 to $77.50 and is all-in
PLR_8364275KN: calls $35.50
*** RIVER *** [As 7c Qc 2h] [4c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PLR_8364275KN: shows [4d Tc 3h Kc] (a flush, Ten high)
Hero: shows [Jd Ah Qh 7d] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
PLR_8364275KN collected $193 from pot
PLR_6768363VA: shows [5d 5c 3c 6h]
PLR_2773381LJ: shows [5h 8h Th 9s]
PLR_3765704JY: shows [4h 6s 2s 7h]
PLR_6972001PM: shows [Jc Ks 6c 6d]
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $197 | Rake $4.00
Board [As 7c Qc 2h 4c]
Seat 1: PLR_6768363VA (button) showed [5d 5c 3c 6h]
Seat 2: PLR_8364275KN (small blind) showed [4d Tc 3h Kc] and won ($193) with a flush, Ten high
Seat 3: PLR_2773381LJ (big blind) showed [5h 8h Th 9s]
Seat 4: Hero showed [Jd Ah Qh 7d] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 5: PLR_3765704JY showed [4h 6s 2s 7h]
Seat 6: PLR_6972001PM showed [Jc Ks 6c 6d]

[Flag_Hippo]

Sorry I keep seeing this reply but it doesnt make any sense to me. Both players were all in on the turn - there is no more possible action.

In the original example there is also a player all-in preflop and any hands which have action on another street following an all-in are excluded from adjusted equity calculations.

Here is an example hand that happened to me. I lost 95$ all in adj is 95$. We were both all in on the turn at like 67% to 33%.
Basically every hand is like this, I never have any all in adj calculation.
This cant be right.

Your example does not appear to be an original PokerStars hand so that wouldn't be officially supported by PokerTracker 4.