Difference between PFR and Raise First In

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Difference between PFR and Raise First In

Postby vicenzo35 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:40 am

Hi everyone,

I have a probleme with these two statistics on my pop up: PFR % and Raise First In % are different. Is it not the same statistic ( if we indeed don't account the 3 bet for the PFR%) ?

If i'm wrong , could you explain me the difference between these 2 stats?

I join a file of my screen to show you what my screen displays. For this particular player , the difference is worthy against the PFR and raise first in for the Small Blind Position.

Thanks for your future help !
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Re: Difference between PFR and Raise First In

Postby WhiteRider » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:37 am

PFR includes any preflop raise (first raise/2bet, 3bet, 4bet, etc.)
Raise First In only includes hands where you raise as the first player to enter the pot.

You can see exactly how any stat is defined by going to Configure > Statistics. Type in the Search field to find the stats you're interested in.
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Re: Difference between PFR and Raise First In

Postby cgonzo666 » Sun Nov 26, 2023 6:50 am

I know this post is like 10 years old, but is this still accurate?

I'm wondering especially about this part "PFR includes any preflop raise (first raise/2bet, 3bet, 4bet, etc.)"

Does this mean the player does not have to be the first to raise for the PFR to be affected?

Then what would be the best statistic for someone who raises first pre-flop? I"m guessing but something similar to RFI PF?

I am assuming RFI is for all betting rounds, not just PF
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Re: Difference between PFR and Raise First In

Postby Flag_Hippo » Sun Nov 26, 2023 1:19 pm

cgonzo666 wrote:I know this post is like 10 years old, but is this still accurate?

Yes.
cgonzo666 wrote:Does this mean the player does not have to be the first to raise for the PFR to be affected?

Yes.
cgonzo666 wrote:Does this mean the player does not have to be the first to raise for the PFR to be affected?
Then what would be the best statistic for someone who raises first pre-flop? I"m guessing but something similar to RFI PF?

The built-in statistic called 'Raise First In' is a preflop statistic although that will not include hands where there were limpers. If you want a statistic for all preflop 2bets regardless of limpers then there is a '2Bet Preflop' custom statistic available in the Download Warehouse.
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