Stat: Fold to Small 3Bet

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Stat: Fold to Small 3Bet

Postby hotrocket » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:50 pm

Plan: Fold to 3Bet when raised ( Size 4-5 BB)

Is this correct:

cnt_p_3bet_4_5bb_def_action_fold_when_open_raised

sum(if[cash_hand_player_statistics.enum_p_3bet_action='F' AND cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_3bet_facing / cash_limit.amt_bb BETWEEN 4 and 5 AND cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_first_raise, 1, 0])

and

cnt_p_3bet_4_5bb_def_opp_when_open_raised

sum(if[cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_3bet_def_opp AND cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_3bet_facing / cash_limit.amt_bb BETWEEN 4 and 5 AND cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_first_raise, 1, 0])
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Re: Stat: Fold to Small 3Bet

Postby kraada » Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:02 pm

That should work.
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Re: Stat: Fold to Small 3Bet

Postby hotrocket » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:59 pm

What is cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_3bet_facing?

e.g. When somebody openraises 2 BB and the other player raises to 4 BB

is then cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_3bet_facing= 2 ... or 4 or something else??

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Re: Stat: Fold to Small 3Bet

Postby WhiteRider » Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:03 pm

It is the monetary amount that the player has to call when facing that bet.
If A 2bets $3 and B 3Bets $10 then:
- for C cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_3bet_facing=10
- for A (assuming C or someone else doesn't raise) cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_3bet_facing=7

To get the amount of BBs faced use:

cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_3bet_facing / cash_limit.amt_bb
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Re: Stat: Fold to Small 3Bet

Postby dave2085 » Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:25 pm

What am I doing wrong?
I want to show probability what the BU 4-bets against a ~9bb 3bet from Blinds.


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sum(if[cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_first_raise
AND cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_4bet
AND cash_hand_player_statistics.position = 0
AND ((cash_hand_player_statistics.position = 8 and cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_3bet_facing / cash_limit.amt_bb BETWEEN 6.5 and 9.5)
OR (cash_hand_player_statistics.position = 9 and cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_3bet_facing / cash_limit.amt_bb BETWEEN 7 and 10)), 1, 0])


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sum(if[cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_first_raise
AND cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_4bet_opp
AND cash_hand_player_statistics.position = 0
AND ((cash_hand_player_statistics.position = 8 and cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_3bet_facing / cash_limit.amt_bb BETWEEN 6.5 and 9.5)
OR (cash_hand_player_statistics.position = 9 and cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_3bet_facing / cash_limit.amt_bb BETWEEN 7 and 10)), 1, 0])




EDIT:
do i have to use something like this? how can i compare SB and BB?

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and (cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p LIKE '8090%' or cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p LIKE '8080%')
and (cash_hand_summary.str_actors_p LIKE '9%' or cash_hand_summary.str_actors_p LIKE '8%')
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Re: Stat: Fold to Small 3Bet

Postby dave2085 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:25 am

I think I found a way, after reviewing some pt4 warehouse stats.
this is COvsBU(~9bb) 3bet.

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sum(if[char_length(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p) >= 4
and cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_steal_att and cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_4bet
and cash_hand_player_statistics.position = 1
and (substring(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p from 3 for 1) = '0'
and (amt_p_3bet_facing / cash_limit.amt_bb BETWEEN 5 and 8.5)), 1, 0])


1.) I am actually wondering if it's possible to determine the 3betsize without considering the openraisesize? (for example the 3betsize here is determined by a 2.5x openraise)
2.) how to manipulate the substring if I want SB & BB as possible 3bettors? (example above)
Just do this?
and (substring(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p from 3 for 1) = '9' or substring(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p from 3 for 1) = '8')
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Re: Stat: Fold to Small 3Bet

Postby Flag_Hippo » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:22 am

dev209 wrote:1.) I am actually wondering if it's possible to determine the 3betsize without considering the openraisesize?

For this situation you can just add the size of the players 2bet to the amount needed to call and that will give you the absolute size of the 3Bet:

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((cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_3bet_facing + cash_hand_player_statistics.amt_p_raise_made) / cash_limit.amt_bb)

dev209 wrote:2.) how to manipulate the substring if I want SB & BB as possible 3bettors? (example above)
Just do this?
and (substring(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p from 3 for 1) = '9' or substring(cash_hand_summary.str_aggressors_p from 3 for 1) = '8')

Yes that's one method to do that.
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