Excluding all 3bets where I'm facing all ins.

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Excluding all 3bets where I'm facing all ins.

Postby fnopeaw » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:47 am

Situation is : I rfi then I'm facing a 3bet. I'm trying to get rid of all situations where I'm facing a 3bet all in.

I'm using this :

((lookup_actions_p.action ~ '^RR$' OR lookup_actions_p.action ~ '^RC$' OR lookup_actions_p.action ~ '^RF$') AND not ( cash_hand_player_statistics.enum_face_allin SIMILAR TO '(P|p)') OR lookup_actions_p.action LIKE 'RRR%' OR lookup_actions_p.action LIKE 'RRC%' OR lookup_actions_p.action LIKE 'RRF%'

and

cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_4bet_opp

Problem with this is I'm seeying some hands like RCF being filtered by this. RCF is not RC so I'm lost. Why this is filtering RCF?


SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB raises to 11 BB, UTG calls 8 BB, SB raises to 112.44 BB and is all-in, BB raises to 139.1 BB and is all-in, fold

Flop : (235.88 BB, 2 players) 6s Th Qc

Turn : (235.88 BB, 2 players) 8h

River : (235.88 BB, 2 players) Tc

Players agreed to run it twice.

Flop #2: (235.88 BB, 2 players) 3h 3d Qd

Turn #2: (235.88 BB, 2 players) 4d

River #2: (235.88 BB, 2 players) Kd

Here I'm clearly not facing a 3bet all in so I'm lost. I need help here. If you can think of a more effective way to exclude all 3bets all ins I'm facing I would be happy to hear your idea.
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Re: Excluding all 3bets where I'm facing all ins.

Postby fnopeaw » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:10 pm

BTN: 173.82 BB
SB: 43.85 BB
BB: 234.08 BB
UTG: 220.11 BB
MP: 173.14 BB
CO: 208.34 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

UTG raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 43.85 BB and is all-in, fold, UTG calls 40.85 BB, fold

Flop : (91.71 BB, 2 players) 6c 8s Jh

Turn : (91.71 BB, 2 players) As

River : (91.71 BB, 2 players) Jd

And here is a hand where im facing a 3bet all in that is RC that is not being filtered :? :? :? :? :?
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Re: Excluding all 3bets where I'm facing all ins.

Postby kraada » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:35 pm

Try replacing: (lookup_actions_p.action ~ '^RR$' OR lookup_actions_p.action ~ '^RC$' OR lookup_actions_p.action ~ '^RF$')
with:
(lookup_actions_p.action LIKE 'R_')

and let me know if that works better for you.
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Re: Excluding all 3bets where I'm facing all ins.

Postby fnopeaw » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:39 pm

Nothing changed, the same hands are being filtered.

(((lookup_actions_p.action LIKE 'R_') AND not ( cash_hand_player_statistics.enum_face_allin SIMILAR TO '(P|p)')) OR lookup_actions_p.action LIKE 'RR_%')

AND

cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_p_4bet_opp

Same results as before.
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Re: Excluding all 3bets where I'm facing all ins.

Postby kraada » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:41 pm

The string you put and the one I gave you to sub in will force only two action preflop strings. If you want all 3+ character strings to count as well use instead:

(lookup_actions_p.action LIKE 'R_%')
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Re: Excluding all 3bets where I'm facing all ins.

Postby fnopeaw » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:50 pm

Actually, you don't want it for all 3+ character strings because then this is going to start to over filter hands where I'm facing a 5bet all in and that I don't want because I'm only focusing when I'm facing a 3bet allin.

I just want to discard all hands where I'm facing exactly a 3bet allin pre. That's all I'm trying to do here.
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Re: Excluding all 3bets where I'm facing all ins.

Postby fnopeaw » Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:19 pm

I'm doing a test now.

(lookup_actions_p.action LIKE 'RCF') I use this filter and 2 hands match.

Hand 1



BTN: 75.81 BB
SB: 112.44 BB
BB: 139.1 BB
UTG: 149.93 BB
MP: 111.78 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB raises to 11 BB, UTG calls 8 BB, SB raises to 112.44 BB and is all-in, BB raises to 139.1 BB and is all-in, fold

Flop : (235.88 BB, 2 players) 6s Th Qc

Turn : (235.88 BB, 2 players) 8h

River : (235.88 BB, 2 players) Tc

Players agreed to run it twice.

Flop #2: (235.88 BB, 2 players) 3h 3d Qd

Turn #2: (235.88 BB, 2 players) 4d

River #2: (235.88 BB, 2 players) Kd

SB shows Kc Ad (One Pair, Tens)Board #1 (Pre 74%, Flop 28%, Turn 16%)Board #2 (Pre 74%, Flop 18%, Turn 25%)
BB shows Qs Ac (Two Pair, Queens and Tens)Board #1 (Pre 26%, Flop 72%, Turn 84%)Board #2 (Pre 26%, Flop 82%, Turn 75%)
SB wins 117.66 BB
BB wins 117.66 BB




Hand 2

BTN: 186.5 BB
SB: 101.5 BB
BB: 206.97 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 124.49 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 13 BB, MP calls 10 BB, CO raises to 100 BB and is all-in, fold, fold

CO wins 39.5 BB


Now I use the filter

cash_hand_player_statistics.enum_face_allin SIMILAR TO '(p|P)' and only Hand 1 is shown. Hand 2 is filtered.


I'm starting to think that enum_face_allin is filtering randomly hands.

What other filter I can use to detect when a player is all in and is 3betting at same time ?
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Re: Excluding all 3bets where I'm facing all ins.

Postby kraada » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:28 pm

MP should definitely be facing an all-in in that second hand. Please export it and attach it to a support ticket so we can investigate further for you.
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Re: Excluding all 3bets where I'm facing all ins.

Postby fnopeaw » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:31 pm

https://www.pokertracker.com/contact/ti ... _id=149951

Ticket uploaded.


Going back to the problem.

We only want to face 3bets all ins. Let me know if something come to your mind. :idea:
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Re: Excluding all 3bets where I'm facing all ins.

Postby kraada » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:12 pm

Is there a reason you didn't add in flg_p_4bet_opp? That should be true all times you aren't facing an all-in and might help get rid of those other problem hands.
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