Fold To Steal - Stat explained!

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Fold To Steal - Stat explained!

Postby Viegaard » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:45 am

Hello. Quick question.

Does the stat "Fold To Steal" also count when Small Blind folds to Button or Cutoff? Or is it only when Big Blind folds to Small Blind, Button and Cutoff?

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Re: Fold To Steal - Stat explained!

Postby kraada » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:23 am

Yes, the small blind also faces a steal so the stat counts when they face and fold to an open raise from the button and cutoff as well.
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Re: Fold To Steal - Stat explained!

Postby Viegaard » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:27 am

kraada wrote:Yes, the small blind also faces a steal so the stat counts when they face and fold to an open raise from the button and cutoff as well.


Is it possible to set it up so I see: Fold To Steal and then see if he folded to a steal from Cutoff, Button, or Small Blind as individual stats?

So: Fold To Steal from Cutoff, Fold To Steal from Button and Fold To Steal from Small Blind?

And if yes, how?
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Re: Fold To Steal - Stat explained!

Postby kraada » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:58 pm

These stats already exist. Fold vs BTN Open, Fold vs CO Open and BB vs SB Open - Fold are the stats you want. To get the specific position pair for the vs BTN and vs CO stats use the Position Item Property in the top right of the Hud Configuration area - if you pick Big Blind as the position there it'll show only when they were in the big blind and folded for that stat, and so on.
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Re: Fold To Steal - Stat explained!

Postby Viegaard » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:35 am

kraada wrote:These stats already exist. Fold vs BTN Open, Fold vs CO Open and BB vs SB Open - Fold are the stats you want. To get the specific position pair for the vs BTN and vs CO stats use the Position Item Property in the top right of the Hud Configuration area - if you pick Big Blind as the position there it'll show only when they were in the big blind and folded for that stat, and so on.


So;

Fold vs Cutoff = How often both BB and SB fold when Cutoff raises unopened.
Fold vs BTN = How often both BB and SB fold when Button raises unopened.
BB vs SB - Fold = How often BB folds vs SB unopened raise.

= Fold To Steal covers all 3 above but shows the combined total Fold to Steal, and then I can look at each of the 3 individual to get more indepth with what spot the blinds fold to?
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Re: Fold To Steal - Stat explained!

Postby kraada » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:49 am

You've got most of it. Also implied is that nobody else in front of you called or raised. That is if you're on the BB and the CO opens and the SB 3bets you didn't face a steal. Even if the SB called you suddenly didn't face a steal (since the steal was defused before it got to you).
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Re: Fold To Steal - Stat explained!

Postby Viegaard » Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:00 pm

kraada wrote:You've got most of it. Also implied is that nobody else in front of you called or raised. That is if you're on the BB and the CO opens and the SB 3bets you didn't face a steal. Even if the SB called you suddenly didn't face a steal (since the steal was defused before it got to you).


Been at the hospital so I have forgotten some of this. Quick question.

Fold To Steal = How often Big Blind folds to a unopened raise from Small Blind, Button or Cutoff.

BB vs SB Open - Fold = How often Big Blind folds to an unopened bet from Small Blind.

Fold To LP Steal = How often Big Blind folds to unopened raise from Button or Cutoff?
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Re: Fold To Steal - Stat explained!

Postby WhiteRider » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:16 am

Viegaard wrote:Fold To Steal = How often Big Blind folds to a unopened raise from Small Blind, Button or Cutoff.

Fold to steal is how often either the big bling or small blind folds to an open-raise from the SB, button or cutoff. (Obviously the SB can only face a steal from the button or cutoff.)

BB vs SB Open - Fold = How often Big Blind folds to an unopened bet from Small Blind.

Correct.

Fold To LP Steal = How often Big Blind folds to unopened raise from Button or Cutoff?

Correct.
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Re: Fold To Steal - Stat explained!

Postby Viegaard » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:33 pm

WhiteRider wrote:
Viegaard wrote:Fold To Steal = How often Big Blind folds to a unopened raise from Small Blind, Button or Cutoff.

Fold to steal is how often either the big bling or small blind folds to an open-raise from the SB, button or cutoff. (Obviously the SB can only face a steal from the button or cutoff.)

BB vs SB Open - Fold = How often Big Blind folds to an unopened bet from Small Blind.

Correct.

Fold To LP Steal = How often Big Blind folds to unopened raise from Button or Cutoff?

Correct.


Fold To LP Steal does that only include how often the Big Blind folds? Or also how often Small Blind folds vs Button and Cutoff?
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Re: Fold To Steal - Stat explained!

Postby WhiteRider » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:41 am

Viegaard wrote:Fold To LP Steal does that only include how often the Big Blind folds? Or also how often Small Blind folds vs Button and Cutoff?

It's either blind position. If you want to see it for only the big blind then you can set the Position property in the Hud editor to BB, or use a filter in reports.
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